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richard gilman
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Posted: 05/13/2008 at 9:09am
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The LORD spoke this phrase to me this morning, consider the manger.. I immediately asked for clarification and after waiting and sorting through, discerning i heard this futher. The Lakeland revival is like the announcement the unveiling of the return of Jesus to this earth. The announcement is going forth of a deliverer has arrived. Deliverance is coming , this is the beginning of a move of supernatural power and unction.. It is not just for florida but will be brodcast through the earth... Dont be caught up in being lakeland imitators , but be followers of Christ, lakeland is just the beginning of what the LORD is doing in this season. Its a time of the true apostles to come forth, for the beauty of the LORD to be shown through their scars..
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Luke 2:12 This will be a sign for you: you will find a baby
wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.
Consider this sign
a humble
simple sign
a sign to deny self ...
Luke 22:42 Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not
My will, but Yours be done.
Luke 9:23 If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself,
and take up his cross daily and follow Me.
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Anita Lea
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Halleujah!!! Thanks brother Richard for being a yielded vessel! I have been blessed by God through you!!! 
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Richard.
I too feel as though there is deliverance coming. Which is why I was so skeptical about Lakeland. But I know that deliverance is still coming. In fact, I believe Israel will be delivered in our days... From their many, many troubles of coarse.
Right now, I'm ignorant in what's going on in Lakeland. Which is why I'm apologizing. I knew that deliverance is coming, and when I heard all that was wrong with what was happening, I instantly assumed it was a counterfeit. I've heard enough things to feel that what was going on is fishy. The more I read, though, the more I see that what's going on truly may be having some very positive effects! This is all very good! What's bad about it, though, is that I spoke out against it too soon. Therefore, whom ever took offense to my words is to whom I apologize for. I know it's possible that many have become very affectionate over this.
Assuming all that is going on in Lakeland is genuine (I don't know - God knows) then may it also be a sign of a greater deliverance to come! Yes, the one that many have been waiting a long time for! Including myself!
Anyways...
Thank you Richard for suggesting that Lakeland in a sign of deliverance to come! Richard is confirming that Lakeland is a confirmation! Therefore, deliverance is all one big confirmation! Thanks, Rich.
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richard gilman
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Joshua tommorow is the 60th anniversary for israel as a nation.. On may 14th 1948 a nation was born in a day. I was unaware of the date of the anniversary until tonight as i was reading the newspaper at work. Thyu for tieing the thread to israel. Anita Bless the LORD>>>. Amen karen amen.. He didnt choose auspicious surroundings for the birth of Yesha much like lakeland... SO as He was born to die , so are we,,,
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Lyn McSweeney
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SIMPLICITY!!!!!
THE MESSIAH IS COMING
What were they looking for in days of old
The Messiah is coming they were told
They were excited he’d come like a king
In robes of gold and everything
But how did he come just as a child
Our healer our saviour meek and mild
He was a king to those who "saw"
Lord of Lords and so much more
But the proud they missed it they didn’t see
This simple man how can that be
We’ll miss it this time if we don’t open our eyes
Love lives in our hearts we can’t deny
Gods ways are not ours
If we don’t know his heart
To be caught unawares
Will be the part
Of being too proud
To bow our knee
To allow him to cleanse us
To set us free
To surrender ourselves
To walk in his ways
To bring him worship
To bring him praise
To be joined with him
In all we do
Then we won’t "miss it"
Me and you
What were they looking for?
In days of old
The Messiah is coming
They were told
Edited by Lyn McSweeney on 05/13/2008 at 11:49pm
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richard gilman
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amen are we looking for the messiah or signs and wonders??
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Karen Holland
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richard gilman wrote:
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Exactly!!!
Look to know the Lord Jesus Christ personally, look to do His will
alone.
Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy
in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many
miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me,
you evildoers!'
Edited by Karen Holland on 05/14/2008 at 7:20am
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John Connor
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Richard,
I am looking for Signs and Wonders.
I am suprised you are not 
“How dare you teach my people to avoid the Signs and Wonders brigade, when this is the very evidence and proof of My Presence among you and Father’s Hand resting upon us?
Just accept them as little children would you as they do in Puerto Rico.
They are hardly going to harm you are they.
You think it makes you more religious to be paranoid or cynical about the Realms and Activities of Heaven? Who are you trying to impress here?
With one hand you tell My people to obey and support all the evidence given to us in Scripture.
And with the other one you create a Culture so alien to My Holy Spirit that He flees in panic half the time, for He is very fragile, very skittish – like a Dove.
And you pick and choose between scriptures to support your view that only the false prophet will make a name for himself.
Will not Elijah do the same when he returns? Did not Paul say that the Power on top of the words was the proof of Apostleship?
So careful who you condemn, Teachers of the Law.
Your upbringing of My Kids is so Negative right now that you are learning to be Cynics and teaching my babies to do the same, those who yearn for the milk of the Word and His Presence with sincere affection.
You engender hard hearted attitudes everywhere you go.
Did not I Jesus Christ the Son and Your Lord create a Signs ministry everywhere I went? Did I not promise them to My Disciples when they walked out? And did I not prove it afterwards and for the rest of their lives as long as they walked with Me and remained in the Faith?
Quite obviously I condemned the Jews for demanding a Miraculous Sign because they planned to use it as evidence of Beelzebub and to lock me away as a Blasphemer in league with the devil. Anyone with a brain and eyes can see this. I could and can see into people’s hearts so I knew in perfect detail what they were planning.
How dare you put fear on My children when Heaven breaks through and invades them. Why would you fear these things when it is the devil who should fear these things not you. Is he your father too? I wouldn’t think so …
The hard hearted people do not get a sign.
Hard hearted people do not deserve a sign!
Every Chatroom and Forum on earth now has an Antichrist preacher assigned to it to condemn those who bring a signs and wonders ministry again, and this way they will lead my people instantly into Sin and raise a smokescreen of unbelief and preferably vitriolic anger against Me in the form of my Prophets who now walk among you doing it – the signs and wonders thing that is.
The irony is that the entire population on Earth has been crying out for some time for evidence of My Power amongst you, and to breathe the very atmosphere of Heaven as you did back in Acts of the early Church.
So why do we ask for signs and wonders?
So that we know that He is with us watching closely over our every move.
Because we know we have no defence but Him alone, and that miraculously often.
As proof that we are indeed Prophetic and not just imagining it.
To distinguish false Apostles from the true.
Because it really, really annoys and scares the enemy when Heaven takes an interest in what is supposedly his territory.
Why do you think some religious speaking demon pops up with such hatred dripping like green poison from his lips every time gold dust or gemstones from Heaven is mentioned?
Because he knows that the earth is being invaded again *laugh* and this really annoys our enemies down below.
Oh do not be scared my dearly Beloved children, if you knew how much I cared for you really, nestle – just nestle here in the crook of my arm.
Wanting my will is having it. Desiring Daddy to be proud of you is what makes it so.
Don’t be afraid of those who scream and shout on tv and in the chatrooms telling you that signs and wonders are wrong, for I promise to come among you and distribute gifts to those Apostles and Prophets who need one to keep from Discouragement I promise you.
Yes we need the evidence that the Holy Ghost is with us and has not fled to another corner of the Church, yes we do, some of us on a daily basis such is the hard work we do for the Kingdom and the battle that we are in.
Gold dust and sparkly oil and gemstones from Heaven …. Every time a truth is revealed from heaven that is a gift to the earth and of the hidden manna variety a jewel will appear on Earth somewhere in North or South America. This so that you know that I, Jesus Christ am amongst you and busy giving out My gifts to you as I promised in the Book of Revelation!
So work on your unbelief syndrome would you because it is centuries old.
And bathe in it my friends, bathe in it, this winsome golden glow from another place.
A place you will soon inhabit that I go ahead of you to build.
A place I call Home.
My Father’s House!”
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Is this thread against what is happening in Lakeland? Because if it is I would have NEVER posted here. Maybe I missed what Richard was saying. I have a call on my life which is the salvation of souls and also the healing ministry. I am NOT against signs and wonders because that is the way God sometimes gets the attention of the heathens. Healing is for the church today. This people at lakeland are not faking their healing. It is real!
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Acts 5:12-17
12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch. 13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them. 14 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women. 15 Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them. 16 There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks and them which were vexed with unclean spirits, and they were healed every one. 17 Then the high priest rose up and all they that were with him (which in the sect of the Sadducees,)and were filled with indignation.
(Sounds alot like Lakeland to me) 
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richard gilman
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signs wonders, follow me ..
MY eyes are on the king of kings and bless HIS name for all He is doing in lakeland.. May the signs and wonders cause us to look on him that was pierced for us..
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richard gilman
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Anita dear sister i believe what is happening in lakeland is genuine, and i would love to be there. I believe in signs and wonders in their proper place. I would love to have seen that 11 year old boy walk.. I love to see the goodness of my father demonstrated , i love to seemy Yesha exalted and HIS LORDSHIP put into pratice.. Holy Spirit keep pouring Abbas love upon those that are needy, thank you that you comfort us in all our tribulations..
Spirits of unbelief,control,criticism, condenmation,confusion go from the body and lakeland outpouring and let a spirit of concentration of looking steadfastly at the SONS beauty come forth in Jesus name. So be it..
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Amen Brother Richard! 
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Karen Holland wrote:
richard gilman wrote:
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Exactly!!!
Look to know the Lord Jesus Christ personally, look to do His will
alone.
Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy
in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many
miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me,
you evildoers!'
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I also am not against signs & wonders -- they do follow true
believers unfortunately they can also be done by those not following
Jesus.
As can be seen from the above
Signs & Wonders do not determine truth or
whether one is a true follower of Jesus Christ our LORD
Nor does using Jesus' name or casting out demons
Look what the Lord calls those not 'with' Him who perform signs &
wonders in His name.
Therefore signs & wonders do not validate a person or ministry and
they are not fruit.
Keep your eyes fixed on Jesus Christ our Lord & doing His will! For there
are those who would deceive ...
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as
apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an
angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as
servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
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richard gilman
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Karen, one thing seperates the counterfeit wonders, signs from the real.. There is one thing that cant be replicated ,, the presence of the Great I Am. for there is none like the LORD of hosts.. I had heard from the LORD for a long period of time last year about the spirit of false lying wonders being released. We as watchman do need to be objective, but not walking in the spirit of unbelief jealousy and criticism. I dont see those manifestations lakeland(yet) is seeing in my own life but niether am i to be jealous.. I feel very strongly that we can make signs and wonders a idol in the house of God..
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richard gilman wrote:
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I agree ...
The sword of the Spirit {the Spirit of Truth} the word of God
.... separates and reveals good and evil
Hebrews 4:12-13
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged
sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it
judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is
hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the
eyes of him to whom we must give account.
Hebrews 5:11-14
Warning Against Falling Away
We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are
slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you
need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over
again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being
still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.
But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained
themselves to distinguish good from evil.
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Amen continual use, testing all things holding fast to that which is good walking in love ..
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richard gilman wrote:
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Yes love ...
Want to love more? Love much???
We need to check our hearts -
Which person are we more like in the below passage?
How are we receiving/ seeking Jesus?
Like Simon, are we entertaining Jesus - maybe for status - maybe out of
curiosity -- or that Jesus might display His power, a sign & wonder in our
presence?
Or like the woman who falls at Jesus's feet in worship and receives Him as
savior?
Luke 7:44-50
Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, "Do you see this
woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my
feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair.
You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has
not stopped kissing my feet. You did not put oil on my head, but she has
poured perfume on my feet.
Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved
much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little.
Then Jesus said to her, "Your sins are forgiven."
The other guests began to say among themselves, "Who is this who even
forgives sins?"
Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."
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Less of me,,,MORE OF YOU JESUS!!! Love you ALL-prayin' & rejoicin'
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Jesus is the answer
To all your hopes and dreams
Jesus is the one
From whom living water stream
Jesus is the one
Who loves you most of all
Jesus stands at your door and knocks
Wont you answer his call
He’s waiting just to hold you
Within his love so tender and pure
His loving arms embrace you
His strength helps you endure
All the things that touch you
The things that cause you pain
Don’t you hear him whisper
Gently calling out your name
Jesus is the answer
To all your hopes and dreams
Jesus is the one
From whom living water streams
Jesus is the one who loves you most of all
Edited by Lyn McSweeney on 05/16/2008 at 2:28pm
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